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[olivermoss]

* On reddit and in FB dedicated to weird Portland stuff the level of posts is typically 'person did a nice mosaic for their walkway' or like a mildly interesting slap tag. My typical photo hauls are more distinct and generally more interesting than what is crowdsourced by these communities. It's almost like people who put in any effort at all don't want to post either place.

* I've played a bit of Pentiment, which is a very odd game. I am having a problem with my cursor disappearing which doesn't make the game unplayable, but does make things tricky. I may restart anyway to go with a slightly different background. Game trailer.


* Kanye is back on Instagram, despite everything.

* Remember those news stories about twitter advertisers fleeing? Yeah, Apple and Amazon and the other big ones are already back. You know how everyone said that brands wont tolerate being advertised next to hate speech due to brand image? Historically, Pepsi is very sensitive to that and Pepsi will pull ads. Back when youtube was smaller, Pepsi was like 1/3rd of their advertising revenue. Content on youtube got bonked for not being advertising friendly by Pepsi's standards and this was very much talked about in new media circles. This was never an industry-wide thing. Even youtube and twitter are both to big too be very effected by just Pepsi.

Also, critically, youtube runs ads on specific content, not sandwiched between it. Youtube ads pay creators for specific content. Pepsi ads on twitter don't run on specific tweets, and aren't associated with any specific tweet and the ad money doesn't go to tweeters.

I still have hope that there is a small chance twitter will faceplant, but honestly the vast majority of people think the imagined revenue hit was punishment for Elon and the other isn't that bad so they can keep on doing what they were doing before.

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[mistressofmuses]

Yeah, the twitter faceplant is feeling less and less likely. Another "too big to fail" example, in a way. It's depressing that advertisers don't care, but not exactly surprising - everything is a calculation, and I can assume they've decided that they're more likely to make money advertising there than lose money due to associations with the worst of twitter's content.

I still want there to be an epic crash and burn, though at best I think we're looking at a slow decline. Even that seems to be uncertain, because for all the people I know of who were looking for alternatives, very few of them actually left Twitter. It's entrenched enough that it's still the *easiest* option for a lot of people, so unless it STOPS being familiar and active, people will probably keep using it.

[olivermoss]

Yeah, I think twitter is going to go downhill, but we need some disruption for new things to be built. Groups like The Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, one of the best sources for staying informed on fraud and cons, has a twitter but no RSS feed!

If I need to check something, twitter is still where the info is. Too much information infrastructure is built on it.

I hope something happens. It's so entrenched, though.

[mistressofmuses]

Entrenched! That was one of the words I was looking for!

I do hope something happens with it - but there are a lot of resources that don't HAVE an alternative to their twitter, so moving away from Twitter does mean giving those resources up. Plenty of others have set up some sort of alternative, but as with most social media shakeups, those alternatives are spread out over three to five other services. So as always, it's not a move from one site to another, it's a fracturing to a ton of different sites. (Plus some that refuse to move at all.) So unless you want to cobble together a mix of Post, Mastodon, Cohost, Hive, etc. (with all their various problems), you're probably going to lose touch with someone or something.

[olivermoss]

Yeah, and a lot of official info services about fire and natural disasters use twitter instead of developing their own aps.

I don't mind cobbling together across various services, but also I'm me and not everyone works the way I do. Even Mastodon is too much to expect of the average person. But, yeah.... collateral damage to twitter staying and collateral damage to it falling or at least destabilizing.

[mistressofmuses]

Yup. In *theory* I would find it worthwhile to check multiple places, but practically... I know I won't. I don't have time to check in on too many sites each day, and with the way my brain works, letting something be out of sight means it WILL be out of mind very shortly - it's part of what my struggle with discord is! If I don't check something routinely, I won't check it at all.

There are definitely going to be downsides to WHATEVER happens with Twitter.